Hello,

it would be nice to have BaseX as a Nuget package, but I can live without that. It's quite easy to integrate it as-is.

Regads,

Radim Havlicek

C# developer

---------- Původní e-mail ---------- Od: Kirsten, Dirk Dirk.Kirsten@senacor.com Komu: Peter Villadsen Peter.Villadsen@microsoft.com Datum: 8. 6. 2018 12:45:53 Předmět: Re: [basex-talk] Nugets? " Hello Peter,

just my thoughts, and Christian for sure will answer you more politely, but I am quite confused by your email. First of, I (and I am sure many others…) have never heard of Nuget before and saying “engineers expect that” is certainly wrong. It might be true for the C# community, but there are other engineers out there…

And given that C# is not a focus of BaseX, but instead only provides a client for your convenience I am not surprised the BaseX team does not support that.

Also, I have a hard time believing the trivial 302 lines of code of the C# client are that expensive and time consuming to check. Also, the Microsoft internal pre-shipping legal audits seem to be neither the fault nor the responsibility of BaseX. Hey, BaseX is even under the most liberal open source licence, something which can not be said about many Microsoft products (although I appreciate the improvements Microsoft have done in their actions and think regarding open source).

Given that BaseX is an open source product you are more than welcome to contribute these nuget packages. It is even super-easy, because the BaseX repository is hosted on this Microsoft webplatform GitHub.

Best regards

Dirk

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Senacor Technologies Aktiengesellschaft - Sitz: Eschborn - Amtsgericht  Frankfurt am Main - Reg.-Nr.: HRB 105546 Vorstand: Matthias Tomann, Marcus Purzer - Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Daniel Grözinger On 7. Jun 2018, at 18:55, Peter Villadsen <Peter.Villadsen@microsoft.com (mailto:Peter.Villadsen@microsoft.com)> wrote:

Hello,

I am building a system that relies on a Basex backend, and for that I have chosen to use the TCP protocol. My system is built in managed code, so I went ahead and copied the code provided here: https://github.com/BaseXdb/ basex/tree/master/basex-api/src/main/c%23 (https://github.com/BaseXdb/basex/tree/master/basex-api/src/main/c)%C2%A0whic... satisfied my needs very nicely. However, since I have not written this code myself, it is subject to expensive and time consuming pre-shipping legal audits where it is checked that the code does not contain references to other public domain code.

Engineers developing managed code today expect APIs to be shipped as Nuget packages. This has the advantages that it is extremely easy to uptake, you can regard it as a black box (but get the source if you need to), and it supports dependencies (none, in your case) and you can go back and use previously shipped versions (which is important in your case, since you have just changed the authentication scheme I believe). Could  you consider offering the API as both Nugets and source on Github?

Best Regards

Peter Villadsen

Principal Architect

Microsoft Business Applications Group

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Hi Peter,

In the past, users of BaseX have contributed custom packages for various package managers (npm, Homebrew, etc.). I don’t know much about the .NET package manager, but from what I’ve read it seems to be fairly simple to create NuGet packages. And (as has already been indicated), our C# client is slick and has no external dependencies, so it should be even easier.

Peter, do you have some experience with Nuget packages that you would be willing to share with us? Following Michael’s suggestion, I have created a little GitHub issue [1]; all hints on what needs to be done are welcome.

Thanks in advance, Christian

[1] https://github.com/BaseXdb/basex/issues/1578

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 4:06 PM Michael Seiferle ms@basex.org wrote:

Hi Radim, hi Dirk, hi Peter,

in my opinion offering nuget packages might at least be worth investigating, if we were able to automate their creation I sure don’t have any objections!

After (briefly) reading the documentation at https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/nuget/what-is-nuget I think shipping a precompiled version of our c# client (including version information, license information etc.) would already help Peter, Radim and their teams in using our client, right?

If there is mutual interest we could move the discussion to GitHub, I’d be grateful if s/o with more .net platform expertise was willing to join the actual process or at least provide some pointers in the right direction :-)

Best from Konstanz

Michael

Am 08.06.2018 um 15:37 schrieb radim-havlicek@post.cz radim-havlicek@post.cz:

Hello,

it would be nice to have BaseX as a Nuget package, but I can live without that. It's quite easy to integrate it as-is. Regads,

Radim Havlicek C# developer

---------- Původní e-mail ---------- Od: Kirsten, Dirk Dirk.Kirsten@senacor.com Komu: Peter Villadsen Peter.Villadsen@microsoft.com Datum: 8. 6. 2018 12:45:53 Předmět: Re: [basex-talk] Nugets?

Hello Peter,

just my thoughts, and Christian for sure will answer you more politely, but I am quite confused by your email. First of, I (and I am sure many others…) have never heard of Nuget before and saying “engineers expect that” is certainly wrong. It might be true for the C# community, but there are other engineers out there…

And given that C# is not a focus of BaseX, but instead only provides a client for your convenience I am not surprised the BaseX team does not support that.

Also, I have a hard time believing the trivial 302 lines of code of the C# client are that expensive and time consuming to check. Also, the Microsoft internal pre-shipping legal audits seem to be neither the fault nor the responsibility of BaseX. Hey, BaseX is even under the most liberal open source licence, something which can not be said about many Microsoft products (although I appreciate the improvements Microsoft have done in their actions and think regarding open source).

Given that BaseX is an open source product you are more than welcome to contribute these nuget packages. It is even super-easy, because the BaseX repository is hosted on this Microsoft webplatform GitHub.

Best regards Dirk

Senacor Technologies Aktiengesellschaft - Sitz: Eschborn - Amtsgericht Frankfurt am Main - Reg.-Nr.: HRB 105546 Vorstand: Matthias Tomann, Marcus Purzer - Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Daniel Grözinger

On 7. Jun 2018, at 18:55, Peter Villadsen Peter.Villadsen@microsoft.com wrote:

Hello, I am building a system that relies on a Basex backend, and for that I have chosen to use the TCP protocol. My system is built in managed code, so I went ahead and copied the code provided here: https://github.com/BaseXdb/basex/tree/master/basex-api/src/main/c%23 which satisfied my needs very nicely. However, since I have not written this code myself, it is subject to expensive and time consuming pre-shipping legal audits where it is checked that the code does not contain references to other public domain code.

Engineers developing managed code today expect APIs to be shipped as Nuget packages. This has the advantages that it is extremely easy to uptake, you can regard it as a black box (but get the source if you need to), and it supports dependencies (none, in your case) and you can go back and use previously shipped versions (which is important in your case, since you have just changed the authentication scheme I believe). Could you consider offering the API as both Nugets and source on Github?

Best Regards

Peter Villadsen Principal Architect Microsoft Business Applications Group