Dear all,
Java 9 has just been released. As you may know, the BaseX code base is still compatible with Java 7, because version 7 is still used in the wild (we even got various user complaints when we upgraded from Java 6 just a few years ago).
There are several reasons why we will move along to Java 8 in the near future:
* It is more and more unsafe to use Java 7, because Oracle has stopped support two years ago.
* From the developer point of view, there are only advantages when working with more recent versions of a software: newer language features and standard libraries can be used, the code base can be reduced, etc.
* We would like to switch to the newest version of Jetty, which requires Java 8.
Before we approach further, we are interested in hearing your reactions: Do you still work with Java 7? Would some of you require longtime support for Java 7?
Thanks in advance and all the best, Christian
I think it's great that BaseX is moving to Java 8. However I don't have a dependency on Java 7 so my opinion might be biased :) Hopefully more people agree with that.
George
On 09/27/2017 02:19 PM, Christian Grün wrote:
Dear all,
Java 9 has just been released. As you may know, the BaseX code base is still compatible with Java 7, because version 7 is still used in the wild (we even got various user complaints when we upgraded from Java 6 just a few years ago).
There are several reasons why we will move along to Java 8 in the near future:
- It is more and more unsafe to use Java 7, because Oracle has stopped
support two years ago.
- From the developer point of view, there are only advantages when
working with more recent versions of a software: newer language features and standard libraries can be used, the code base can be reduced, etc.
- We would like to switch to the newest version of Jetty, which requires Java 8.
Before we approach further, we are interested in hearing your reactions: Do you still work with Java 7? Would some of you require longtime support for Java 7?
Thanks in advance and all the best, Christian
Hi Christian, most important thing for us is moving to Jetty 9 thus cutting down the dependency to Java 7 feels like a completely favorable deal! Anyway thanks for asking! Regards, Marco.
On 27/09/2017 15:19, George Sofianos wrote:
I think it's great that BaseX is moving to Java 8. However I don't have a dependency on Java 7 so my opinion might be biased :) Hopefully more people agree with that.
George
On 09/27/2017 02:19 PM, Christian Grün wrote:
Dear all,
Java 9 has just been released. As you may know, the BaseX code base is still compatible with Java 7, because version 7 is still used in the wild (we even got various user complaints when we upgraded from Java 6 just a few years ago).
There are several reasons why we will move along to Java 8 in the near future:
- It is more and more unsafe to use Java 7, because Oracle has stopped
support two years ago.
- From the developer point of view, there are only advantages when
working with more recent versions of a software: newer language features and standard libraries can be used, the code base can be reduced, etc.
- We would like to switch to the newest version of Jetty, which
requires Java 8.
Before we approach further, we are interested in hearing your reactions: Do you still work with Java 7? Would some of you require longtime support for Java 7?
Thanks in advance and all the best, Christian
Hi Christian,
+1 from me as well. However, I have to say that the enterprisey customer(tm) I currently work for still uses Java 7 (because whatever...) and I would imagine it is not unheard of in the rest of the enterprise world. But I wouldn't worry too much about it: First, for the ad-hoc stuff they use we could still use older versions of BaseX. And secondly I think the gain of using Java 8 is much, much higher. Also, the switch to Jetty 9 sounds very promising to me.
I would be really interested if maybe using some Java 8 language features (parallel streams and so on) might even benefit BaseX performance.
All the best Dirk
Senacor Technologies Aktiengesellschaft - Sitz: Eschborn - Amtsgericht Frankfurt am Main - Reg.-Nr.: HRB 105546 Vorstand: Matthias Tomann, Marcus Purzer - Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Daniel Gr?zinger
-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: basex-talk-bounces@mailman.uni-konstanz.de [mailto:basex-talk-bounces@mailman.uni-konstanz.de] Im Auftrag von Marco Lettere Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. September 2017 15:23 An: basex-talk@mailman.uni-konstanz.de Betreff: Re: [basex-talk] [basex-announce] Moving on to Java 8?
Hi Christian, most important thing for us is moving to Jetty 9 thus cutting down the dependency to Java 7 feels like a completely favorable deal! Anyway thanks for asking! Regards, Marco.
On 27/09/2017 15:19, George Sofianos wrote:
I think it's great that BaseX is moving to Java 8. However I don't have a dependency on Java 7 so my opinion might be biased :) Hopefully more people agree with that.
George
On 09/27/2017 02:19 PM, Christian Gr?n wrote:
Dear all,
Java 9 has just been released. As you may know, the BaseX code base is still compatible with Java 7, because version 7 is still used in the wild (we even got various user complaints when we upgraded from Java 6 just a few years ago).
There are several reasons why we will move along to Java 8 in the near future:
- It is more and more unsafe to use Java 7, because Oracle has
stopped support two years ago.
- From the developer point of view, there are only advantages when
working with more recent versions of a software: newer language features and standard libraries can be used, the code base can be reduced, etc.
- We would like to switch to the newest version of Jetty, which
requires Java 8.
Before we approach further, we are interested in hearing your reactions: Do you still work with Java 7? Would some of you require longtime support for Java 7?
Thanks in advance and all the best, Christian
Hi Christian,
The Mac I use for development has Java 8 natively so no issue. We also have BaseX deployed on a GNU/Linux VM running Java 7 (details below). Would we need to upgrade the JRE or JDK to Java 8 to make it work with the new versions of BaseX? This machine is dedicated to our project so presumably we should be able upgrade it to Java 8 without affecting anyone else.
Thanks, Ron
$ java -version
java version "1.7.0_111"
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (rhel-2.6.7.8.el7-x86_64 u111-b01)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 24.111-b01, mixed mode)
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On September 27, 2017 at 2:15:37 PM, Kirsten, Dirk (dirk.kirsten@senacor.com) wrote:
Hi Christian,
+1 from me as well. However, I have to say that the enterprisey customer™ I currently work for still uses Java 7 (because whatever...) and I would imagine it is not unheard of in the rest of the enterprise world. But I wouldn't worry too much about it: First, for the ad-hoc stuff they use we could still use older versions of BaseX. And secondly I think the gain of using Java 8 is much, much higher. Also, the switch to Jetty 9 sounds very promising to me.
I would be really interested if maybe using some Java 8 language features (parallel streams and so on) might even benefit BaseX performance.
All the best Dirk
Senacor Technologies Aktiengesellschaft - Sitz: Eschborn - Amtsgericht Frankfurt am Main - Reg.-Nr.: HRB 105546 Vorstand: Matthias Tomann, Marcus Purzer - Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Daniel Grözinger
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: basex-talk-bounces@mailman.uni-konstanz.de [ mailto:basex-talk-bounces@mailman.uni-konstanz.de basex-talk-bounces@mailman.uni-konstanz.de] Im Auftrag von Marco Lettere Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. September 2017 15:23 An: basex-talk@mailman.uni-konstanz.de Betreff: Re: [basex-talk] [basex-announce] Moving on to Java 8?
Hi Christian, most important thing for us is moving to Jetty 9 thus cutting down the dependency to Java 7 feels like a completely favorable deal! Anyway thanks for asking! Regards, Marco.
On 27/09/2017 15:19, George Sofianos wrote:
I think it's great that BaseX is moving to Java 8. However I don't have a dependency on Java 7 so my opinion might be biased :) Hopefully more people agree with that.
George
On 09/27/2017 02:19 PM, Christian Grün wrote:
Dear all,
Java 9 has just been released. As you may know, the BaseX code base is still compatible with Java 7, because version 7 is still used in the wild (we even got various user complaints when we upgraded from Java 6 just a few years ago).
There are several reasons why we will move along to Java 8 in the near future:
- It is more and more unsafe to use Java 7, because Oracle has
stopped support two years ago.
- From the developer point of view, there are only advantages when
working with more recent versions of a software: newer language features and standard libraries can be used, the code base can be reduced, etc.
- We would like to switch to the newest version of Jetty, which
requires Java 8.
Before we approach further, we are interested in hearing your reactions: Do you still work with Java 7? Would some of you require longtime support for Java 7?
Thanks in advance and all the best, Christian
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