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Change of email address
by Ron Kaplan 08 Jun '12

08 Jun '12

Hi everyone, As some of you may have heard, I am about to leave Microsoft to head up a new Natural Language Understanding lab at Nuance in Mountain View. So my Microsoft.com email address will no longer work. Please update your address books (and the pargram mailing list) to use my more private (and continuing) address: ron.kaplan(a)post.harvard.edu Thanks, and looking forward to our Bali meeting. --Ron

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Appologies for the spead of spam;-(
by Nazareth Amlesom 01 Jun '12

01 Jun '12

Dear all, If you received a spam looking message that contains only a link to a webpage, please do not open it. It's is a spam that I received from a friend and it spread to all of you when I opened it. I appologize if this has caused you inconveniences. Best regards, Nazareth

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pargram tex template and feature declaration
by Meladel Mistica 21 May '12

21 May '12

Hi all, Attached is the template for the ParGram sentences. Please also send your feature declaration to Tina and Nette (CCed above). They will be collating them and putting them up on the Bergen website. Just a reminder that the command for printing your feature declaration in XLE is: print-feature-declaration Cheers Meladel --- “If the English language made any sense, lackadaisical would have something to do with a shortage of flowers.” Doug Larson

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subsumption and constraining equations
by Dag Haug 17 May '12

17 May '12

Dear all, I have a problem understanding how subsumption and constraining equations work together in the XLE. As far as I can see, XLE's behavior is different from what the documentation says, but I am not sure I understand. The basic problem is this: I want to allow nominalizations of S's that have a CASE value but not other S's. The rule I use is this: NP --> { N' | S: ! << ^ (! CASE) } So an NP can expand to S, in which case the S's f-structure should subsume that of the NP, so all the information gets passed up from the f-structure of the S to the f-structure of the NP. Then there is a constraining/existential equation requiring the S's f-structure to have CASE - or so I thought. It wouldn't be enough that the NP gets assigned CASE from above, so to speak. If I read it correctly, he documentation of explicit subsumption says that it behaves differently from implicit subsumption (in sets) in that constraining equations don't get distributed. But as it happens, XLE accepts a solution where S in itself has no case, but the NP gets case from the verb. So even though it displays two different f-structures for the NP and the S (since they differ in CASE), it allows for the existential constraint to be satisfied in the "wrong" f-structure. I can achieve the effect I want by adding @(COMPLETE(! CASE)), forcing local satisfaction of the existential constraint. In that case, there is no need to use subsumption at all, of course. So implementation-wise I am ok, but I am interested in subsumption from a theoretical point of view as well, so if anyone can help explain XLE's behavior and whether there is a particular theoretical reason for it, I'd be grateful. I have a minimal implementation which recreates the problem, if anyone is interested. Best, Dag Haug

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XLE Logon Interface to Pargram Grammars
by Anette Frank 03 May '12

03 May '12

Dear all, I'd like to use the XLE Logon Interface to the Pargram Grammars in my syntax course. The link I was using before is: http://decentius.aksis.uib.no/logon/xle.xml Apparently it is broken. If the interface has moved, it would be great to know where I can find it. Best, Anette -- Anette Frank Computational Linguistics Department University of Heidelberg Im Neuenheimer Feld 325 69120 Heidelberg, Germany http://www.cl.uni-heidelberg.de/~frank email: frank(a)cl.uni-heidelberg.de phone: +49-(0)6221/54-3247 secr: +49-(0)6221/54-3245 fax: +49-(0)6221/54-3242

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Re: [ParGram] ParGram 2012 (again)
by I Arka 24 Apr '12

24 Apr '12

Hi Paul, It's good to know that you've made the booking. And thanks for letting us know about the topic of your the presentation. Cheers, -Wayan On 04/25/12, Paul Meurer <paul.meurer(a)uni.no> wrote: > Hi Wayan, > > thank you for the info. Btw., I have now succeeded in booking a hotel in Sanur. > > I can give a presentation of the LFG treebank search system I am developing. > > > Dear All, > > > > This is just to let you know that the time of ParGram2012 in Bali coincides with the annual Bali Arts Festival, 6 June - 7July 2012 where you can enjoy daily performances, handicraft exhibitions and other related cultural activities in Denpasar. Some information about this year Bali Arts Festival is available here: > > http://www.thejakartapost.com/bali-daily/2012-04-10/colorful-bali-arts-fest… > > > > If you want to attend ParGram, please check the information regarding accommodation and the venue at http://chl.anu.edu.au/linguistics/projects/ical-lfg/events/pargram.php. We recommend that you stay in Sanur area if you want to enjoy your stay in Bali. June-July is a peak tourist season in Bali, so it's good to plan your trip to Bali sooner rather than later. > > > > Our ParGram meeting is two months from now. > > Please let us know ASAP if you want to give a presentation, lead a discussion or have a topic discussed, so that we can do some more planning. > > -- > Best wishes, > Paul > > >

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ParGram 2012 (again)
by I Arka 24 Apr '12

24 Apr '12

Dear All, This is just to let you know that the time of ParGram2012 in Bali coincides with the annual Bali Arts Festival, 6 June - 7July 2012 where you can enjoy daily performances, handicraft exhibitions and other related cultural activities in Denpasar. Some information about this year Bali Arts Festival is available here: http://www.thejakartapost.com/bali-daily/2012-04-10/colorful-bali-arts-fest… If you want to attend ParGram, please check the information regarding accommodation and the venue at http://chl.anu.edu.au/linguistics/projects/ical-lfg/events/pargram.php. We recommend that you stay in Sanur area if you want to enjoy your stay in Bali. June-July is a peak tourist season in Bali, so it's good to plan your trip to Bali sooner rather than later. Our ParGram meeting is two months from now. Please let us know ASAP if you want to give a presentation, lead a discussion or have a topic discussed, so that we can do some more planning. On behalf of the Indonesian and Urdu team, Best regards, -Wayan

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ParGram Sentence
by Meladel Mistica 19 Apr '12

19 Apr '12

Hi all, Attached is the set of sentences for Bali ParGram. At the last meeting we got a couple of (external) requests to make our ParGram sentences public, so for this year we (the Urdu and Indonesian mob, with consultation from Tracy) have compiled a set of "classic constructions" to get this collection started. Perhaps we should discuss at the meeting how and when we make this collection available for other researchers. It would also be good, especially for grammars that are not that mature (like IndoGram) to opt out of making selected constructions public, however it may be worthwhile to try out all the sentences in the collection for feedback. I'll send out LaTeX templates in a wee while. Cheers! Meladel --- “If the English language made any sense, lackadaisical would have something to do with a shortage of flowers.” Doug Larson

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[XLE] Question: generating from s-structures
by Francois Lareau 16 Apr '12

16 Apr '12

Dear XLE-ists, We are using XLE in a bilingual text generation project (http://web.science.mq.edu.au/~ayeye), and we would like to be able to generate sentences from s-structures rather than f-structures. It seems that projections other than c- and f-structures get encoded in the exported prolog files as attributes of the f-structure. This means that generating from an s-structure technically boils down to generating from an underspecified f-structure (where everything is missing except the "s::" attributes). But even when declaring all attributes of f-structures addable, we still cannot generate from s-structures. I think this is because the PRED attribute cannot be added to an underspecified f-structure, due of its central role in ensuring completeness and coherence. Is there a way to work around this limitation, short of using transfer rules? Has anyone ever tried to generate from other projections than the f-structure? Any help would be much appreciated. Kind regards, François Lareau Post-doc fellow Centre for Language Technology Macquarie University _______________________________________________ XLE mailing list XLE(a)mailman.uni-konstanz.de https://mailman.uni-konstanz.de/mailman/listinfo/xle

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ParGram 2012
by Meladel Mistica 02 Apr '12

02 Apr '12

Hi all, As a reminder, the 2012 ParGram meeting will be Friday, June 22nd to Tuesday, June 26th at Udayana University, Bali. If you are planning to come but have not let us know, please do so soon. Miriam and Wayan are going to put together the agenda for the meeting soon, so if you have: - a presentation you would like to make (e.g. a project report) - a discussion you would like to lead - a topic you would like to have discussed please let us know and we will put that on the agenda. Thanks, The Urdu and Indonesian team. --- “If the English language made any sense, lackadaisical would have something to do with a shortage of flowers.” Doug Larson

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