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Reminder: F-structure comparison meeting (ParGram) (29 Feb 2024, 9 am-11 am, UTC-0)
by Chit Fung LAM (Lawrence) 26 Feb '24

26 Feb '24

Dear all, This is a reminder that our next LFG f-structure comparison meeting will be held online on *Thursday 29 Feb 2024 (9 am-11 am) (UTC-0)*. The discussion will focus on the following sentences: 6. Don't push the button. 7. The farmer gave his neighbour an old tractor. 8. The farmer cut the tree down. Anyone who is developing a grammar using the XLE grammar development platform (https://ling.sprachwiss.uni-konstanz.de/pages/xle/) is welcome to attend. We would also welcome participation by anyone using the Grammar Writer's Workbench ( https://parc-public.pages-external.parc.com/xle/isl/groups/nltt/medley/). >From beginners to experts, all are welcome! Similar to the previous meetings, all participants will translate these sentences into the language they are working on, and produce and print out the f-structures to PDF. There is no need to print out c-structures. We have created a Google Drive directory for the f-structures, which currently contains f-structures parsed by English, Norwegian, Polish, Irish, Mandarin, and Welsh grammars. In advance of the meeting, participants will deposit their f-structures for the sentences there. Please contact one of us if you would like to have access to this repository. In the ParGram consortium, the idea is that differences in f-structures for translational equivalents should reflect syntactic differences between the languages -- there should be no arbitrary differences to do with spelling of feature names or other linguistically irrelevant details. If you have any questions, or if you would like to be added to the list of people with access to the f-structure repository, please send an email to one of us. We look forward to seeing you on Thursday 29 Feb 2024. Zoom Link: https://tcd-ie.zoom.us/j/93770084827?pwd=OEpZampzanZMS2VXMDNkcEJyTU9WZz09 Meeting ID: 937 7008 4827 Passcode: 111795 - Mary Dalrymple, Chit-Fung Lam (Lawrence), and Elaine Ui Dhonnchadha

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ParGram f-structure comparison meeting (19 Dec, UTC 9-11 am)
by Chit Fung LAM (Lawrence) 01 Dec '23

01 Dec '23

Dear LFGers and ParGram contributors, We have recently held our first f-structure comparison session, which was part of the regular meetings of the ParGram consortium ( https://pargram.w.uib.no/). A big thank you to those who attended and contributed to the discussion! We will continue to hold these meetings online. Anyone who is developing a grammar using the XLE grammar development platform ( https://ling.sprachwiss.uni-konstanz.de/pages/xle/) is welcome to attend. We would also welcome participation by anyone using the Grammar Writer's Workbench ( https://parc-public.pages-external.parc.com/xle/isl/groups/nltt/medley/). The second meeting is scheduled for *19 Dec 2023 (UTC 9-11 am)*. It will continue our discussion of the sentences in ParGram Treebanks (sentences 1, 2 and possibly 3). Those who could not attend the first meeting are also welcome to join us on 19 Dec. 1. The driver starts the tractor. 2. The tractor is red. 3. What did the farmer see? *Zoom Link*: https://tcd-ie.zoom.us/j/93770084827?pwd=OEpZampzanZMS2VXMDNkcEJyTU9WZz09 *Meeting ID*: 937 7008 4827 *Passcode*: 111795 Similar to the first meeting, all participants will translate these sentences into the language they are working on, and produce and print out the f-structures to PDF. There is no need to print out c-structures. We have created a Google Drive directory for the f-structures, which currently contains f-structures parsed by English, Norwegian, Polish, Irish, Mandarin, and Welsh grammars. In advance of the meeting, participants should plan to deposit their f-structures for the sentences there. Please contact one of us if you would like to have access to this repository. Please try to model your f-structures on the analyses in the treebank to the extent possible. In the ParGram consortium, the idea is that differences in f-structures for translational equivalents should reflect syntactic differences between the languages -- there should be no arbitrary differences to do with spelling of feature names or other linguistically irrelevant details. If you have any questions, or if you would like to be added to the list of people with access to the f-structure repository, please send an email to one of us. We are looking forward to discussing your f-structures! - Mary Dalrymple, Lawrence (Chit-Fung) Lam, and Elaine Ui Dhonnchadha

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f-structure comparison meeting - Tue 21 November at 9am UTC
by Chit Fung LAM (Lawrence) 15 Nov '23

15 Nov '23

Dear all, This is a reminder of an f-structure comparison meeting to be held on *Tue 21 Nov (9 am UTC)*. Please refer to the message below posted earlier by Mary Dalrymple for the relevant details. Thank you very much for your kind attention. --------------------------------------- As we announced in an earlier message, Chit-Fung Lam (Lawrence), Elaine Ui Dhonnchadha, and I are planning to revive the* f-structure comparison sessions* that were held in the regular meetings of the ParGram consortium ( https://pargram.w.uib.no/). These meetings will be held on-line, and anyone who is developing a grammar using the XLE grammar development platform (https://ling.sprachwiss.uni-konstanz.de/pages/xle/) is welcome to attend. We would also welcome participation by anyone using the Grammar Writer's Workbench ( https://parc-public.pages-external.parc.com/xle/isl/groups/nltt/medley/). In these meetings, we will *discuss and compare f-structures* for a parallel set of translationally equivalent sentences. We will use the Pargram treebank sentences as a starting point. The Pargram treebank is available at the following link (scroll to the end of the page): https://clarino.uib.no/iness/treebanks?collection=ParGram&reset-all=true We will discuss the f-structures for the following sentences (we may not have time for a discussion of all of them -- it is fine to attend the meeting even if your grammar does not parse all of these): The driver starts the tractor. The tractor is red. What did the farmer see? Did the farmer sell his tractor? Push the button. *All participants will translate these sentences into the language they are working on, and produce and print out the f-structures to PDF.* There is no need to print out c-structures. * We have created a Google Drive directory for the f-structures, which currently contains f-structures for English and Irish. In advance of the meeting, meeting participants should plan to deposit their f-structures there for as many of the sentences as you can parse. Please contact one of us if you would like to have access to this repository.* Please try to model your f-structures on the analyses in the treebank to the extent possible. In the Pargram consortium, the idea is that differences in f-structures for translational equivalents should reflect syntactic differences between the languages -- there should be no arbitrary differences to do with spelling of feature names or other linguistically irrelevant details. Unfortunately, *there is a conflict with the originally proposed meeting time next Tuesday (24 Oct) therefore the meeting has been rescheduled to Tuesday 21 November at 9:00 AM UTC (this is 9:00 AM UK time). * The *Zoom link* is below. If you have any questions, or if you would like to be added to the list of people with access to the f-structure repository, please send email to one of us. We are looking forward to discussing your f-structures! - Mary, Lawrence and Elaine PARGRAM Treebank https://tcd-ie.zoom.us/j/93770084827?pwd=OEpZampzanZMS2VXMDNkcEJyTU9WZz09 Meeting ID: 937 7008 4827 Passcode: 111795

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f-structure comparison meeting - Tue 21 Novmeber at 9am UTC
by Chit Fung LAM (Lawrence) 15 Nov '23

15 Nov '23

Dear all, This is a reminder of an f-structure comparison meeting to be held on Tue 21 Nov (9 am UTC). Please refer to the message below for the details. Thank you! --------------------------------------- As we announced in an earlier message, Chit-Fung Lam (Lawrence), Elaine Ui Dhonnchadha, and I are planning to revive the f-structure comparison sessions that were held in the regular meetings of the ParGram consortium ( https://pargram.w.uib.no/). These meetings will be held on-line, and anyone who is developing a grammar using the XLE grammar development platform (https://ling.sprachwiss.uni-konstanz.de/pages/xle/) is welcome to attend. We would also welcome participation by anyone using the Grammar Writer's Workbench ( https://parc-public.pages-external.parc.com/xle/isl/groups/nltt/medley/). In these meetings, we will discuss and compare f-structures for a parallel set of translationally equivalent sentences. We will use the Pargram treebank sentences as a starting point. The Pargram treebank is available at the following link (scroll to the end of the page): https://clarino.uib.no/iness/treebanks?collection=ParGram&reset-all=true We will discuss the f-structures for the following sentences (we may not have time for a discussion of all of them -- it is fine to attend the meeting even if your grammar does not parse all of these): The driver starts the tractor. The tractor is red. What did the farmer see? Did the farmer sell his tractor? Push the button. All participants will translate these sentences into the language they are working on, and produce and print out the f-structures to PDF. There is no need to print out c-structures. We have created a Google Drive directory for the f-structures, which currently contains f-structures for English and Irish. In advance of the meeting, meeting participants should plan to deposit their f-structures there for as many of the sentences as you can parse. Please contact one of us if you would like to have access to this repository. Please try to model your f-structures on the analyses in the treebank to the extent possible. In the Pargram consortium, the idea is that differences in f-structures for translational equivalents should reflect syntactic differences between the languages -- there should be no arbitrary differences to do with spelling of feature names or other linguistically irrelevant details. Unfortunately, there is a conflict with the originally proposed meeting time next Tuesday (24 Oct) therefore the meeting has been rescheduled to Tuesday 21 November at 9:00 AM UTC (this is 9:00 AM UK time). The Zoom link is below. If you have any questions, or if you would like to be added to the list of people with access to the f-structure repository, please send email to one of us. We are looking forward to discussing your f-structures! - Mary, Lawrence and Elaine

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f-structure comparison meeting - rescheduled to Tue 21 November at 9am UTC
by Chit Fung LAM (Lawrence) 22 Oct '23

22 Oct '23

Dear all, I am reposting a message sent by Mary Dalrymple ( mary.dalrymple(a)ling-phil.ox.ac.uk) as follows in case the previous one wasn't sent successfully: As we announced in an earlier message, Chit-Fung Lam (Lawrence), Elaine Ui Dhonnchadha, and I are planning to revive the* f-structure comparison sessions* that were held in the regular meetings of the ParGram consortium ( https://pargram.w.uib.no/). These meetings will be held on-line, and anyone who is developing a grammar using the XLE grammar development platform (https://ling.sprachwiss.uni-konstanz.de/pages/xle/) is welcome to attend. We would also welcome participation by anyone using the Grammar Writer's Workbench ( https://parc-public.pages-external.parc.com/xle/isl/groups/nltt/medley/). In these meetings, we will *discuss and compare f-structures* for a parallel set of translationally equivalent sentences. We will use the Pargram treebank sentences as a starting point. The Pargram treebank is available at the following link (scroll to the end of the page): https://clarino.uib.no/iness/treebanks?collection=ParGram&reset-all=true We will discuss the f-structures for the following sentences (we may not have time for a discussion of all of them -- it is fine to attend the meeting even if your grammar does not parse all of these): The driver starts the tractor. The tractor is red. What did the farmer see? Did the farmer sell his tractor? Push the button. *All participants will translate these sentences into the language they are working on, and produce and print out the f-structures to PDF.* There is no need to print out c-structures. * We have created a Google Drive directory for the f-structures, which currently contains f-structures for English and Irish. In advance of the meeting, meeting participants should plan to deposit their f-structures there for as many of the sentences as you can parse. Please contact one of us if you would like to have access to this repository.* Please try to model your f-structures on the analyses in the treebank to the extent possible. In the Pargram consortium, the idea is that differences in f-structures for translational equivalents should reflect syntactic differences between the languages -- there should be no arbitrary differences to do with spelling of feature names or other linguistically irrelevant details. Unfortunately, *there is a conflict with the originally proposed meeting time next Tuesday (24 Oct) therefore the meeting has been rescheduled to Tuesday 21 November at 9:00 AM UTC (this is 9:00 AM UK time). * The *Zoom link* is below. If you have any questions, or if you would like to be added to the list of people with access to the f-structure repository, please send email to one of us. We are looking forward to discussing your f-structures! - Mary, Lawrence and Elaine PARGRAM Treebank https://tcd-ie.zoom.us/j/93770084827?pwd=OEpZampzanZMS2VXMDNkcEJyTU9WZz09 Meeting ID: 937 7008 4827 Passcode: 111795

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f-structure comparison meeting - rescheduled to Tue 21 Novemeber at 9am UTC
by Mary Dalrymple 21 Oct '23

21 Oct '23

As we announced in an earlier message, Chit-Fung Lam (Lawrence), Elaine Ui Dhonnchadha, and I are planning to revive the f-structure comparison sessions that were held in the regular meetings of the ParGram consortium (https://pargram.w.uib.no/). These meetings will be held on-line, and anyone who is developing a grammar using the XLE grammar development platform (https://ling.sprachwiss.uni-konstanz.de/pages/xle/) is welcome to attend. We would also welcome participation by anyone using the Grammar Writer's Workbench (https://parc-public.pages-external.parc.com/xle/isl/groups/nltt/medley/). In these meetings, we will discuss and compare f-structures for a parallel set of translationally equivalent sentences. We will use the Pargram treebank sentences as a starting point. The Pargram treebank is available at the following link (scroll to the end of the page): https://clarino.uib.no/iness/treebanks?collection=ParGram&reset-all=true We will discuss the f-structures for the following sentences (we may not have time for a discussion of all of them -- it is fine to attend the meeting even if your grammar does not parse all of these): The driver starts the tractor. The tractor is red. What did the farmer see? Did the farmer sell his tractor? Push the button. All participants will translate these sentences into the language they are working on, and produce and print out the f-structures to PDF. There is no need to print out c-structures. We have created a Google Drive directory for the f-structures, which currently contains f-structures for English and Irish. In advance of the meeting, meeting participants should plan to deposit their f-structures there for as many of the sentences as you can parse. Please contact one of us if you would like to have access to this repository. Please try to model your f-structures on the analyses in the treebank to the extent possible. In the Pargram consortium, the idea is that differences in f-structures for translational equivalents should reflect syntactic differences between the languages -- there should be no arbitrary differences to do with spelling of feature names or other linguistically irrelevant details. Unfortunately, there is a conflict with the originally proposed meeting time next Tuesday (24 Oct) therefore the meeting has been rescheduled to Tuesday 21 November at 9:00 AM UTC (this is 9:00 AM UK time). The Zoom link is below. If you have any questions, or if you would like to be added to the list of people with access to the f-structure repository, please send email to one of us. We are looking forward to discussing your f-structures! - Mary, Lawrence and Elaine PARGRAM Treebank https://tcd-ie.zoom.us/j/93770084827?pwd=OEpZampzanZMS2VXMDNkcEJyTU9WZz09 Meeting ID: 937 7008 4827 Passcode: 111795

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f-structure comparison sessions for computational grammar developers
by Mary Dalrymple 29 Sep '23

29 Sep '23

Chit-Fung Lam (Lawrence), Elaine Ui Dhonnchadha, and I are planning to revive the f-structure comparison sessions that were held in the regular meetings of the ParGram consortium (https://pargram.w.uib.no/). These meetings will be held on-line, and anyone who is developing a grammar using the XLE grammar development platform (https://ling.sprachwiss.uni-konstanz.de/pages/xle/) is welcome to attend. We would also welcome participation by anyone using the Grammar Writer's Workbench (https://parc-public.pages-external.parc.com/xle/isl/groups/nltt/medley/). We anticipate that the meetings will be held every two months, but if there is interest in meeting more regularly, we can consider that in the first meeting. In these meetings, we will discuss and compare f-structures for a parallel set of translationally equivalent sentences. We will use the Pargram treebank sentences as a starting point, and in the first meeting we will plan to discuss the first 5 sentences. (We may find that this is too ambitious -- we will discuss the f-structures in the order below, so even if you can produce only the f-structure for the first one or two sentences, please feel free to attend and participate in the discussion.) The Pargram treebank is available at the following link (scroll to the end of the page): https://clarino.uib.no/iness/treebanks?collection=ParGram&reset-all=true The first five sentences are: The driver starts the tractor. The tractor is red. What did the farmer see? Did the farmer sell his tractor? Push the button. All participants will translate these sentences into the language they are working on, and produce and print out the f-structures. You can do this by using the "Print" command to print the f-structures to PDF. It is helpful to circulate the analyses in advance of the meeting, so that people can look at the f-structures ahead of time. There is no need to circulate c-structures. It will probably be a good idea for us to have a repository where people can access the f-structures to prepare for the meeting-- we will look into this and let the participants know, so please let us know if you plan to participate, so we can add you to the repository. The Pargram treebank contains analyses for these sentences, and it will probably be a good idea for grammar writers to try to model their f-structures on the analyses in the treebank to the extent possible. In the Pargram consortium, the idea is that differences in f-structures for translational equivalents should reflect syntactic differences between the languages -- there should be no arbitrary differences to do with spelling of feature names or other linguistically irrelevant details. We propose to hold the first meeting on Tuesday 24 October at 8:00 AM UTC (this is 9:00 AM UK time). The Zoom link is below. If you have any questions, or if you would like to be added to the list of people with access to the f-structure repository, please send email to one of us. We are looking forward to discussing your f-structures! - Mary, Lawrence and Elaine PARGRAM Treebank https://tcd-ie.zoom.us/j/93770084827?pwd=OEpZampzanZMS2VXMDNkcEJyTU9WZz09 Meeting ID: 937 7008 4827 Passcode: 111795

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Re: [ParGram] ParGram Digest, Vol 58, Issue 2: Agenda for Friday
by Elaine Ui Dhonnchadha 18 Jul '23

18 Jul '23

That is fine. Thank you, Elaine. -----Original Message----- From: ParGram <pargram-bounces(a)mailman.uni-konstanz.de> On Behalf Of pargram-request(a)mailman.uni-konstanz.de Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2023 11:00 AM To: pargram(a)mailman.uni-konstanz.de Subject: ParGram Digest, Vol 58, Issue 2 Send ParGram mailing list submissions to pargram(a)mailman.uni-konstanz.de To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.uni-konstanz.de/mailman/listinfo/pargram or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to pargram-request(a)mailman.uni-konstanz.de You can reach the person managing the list at pargram-owner(a)mailman.uni-konstanz.de When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ParGram digest..." Today's Topics: 1. ParGram meeting at the LFG23 conference -- Reminder (Mark-Matthias Zymla) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2023 22:45:41 +0200 From: Mark-Matthias Zymla <Mark-Matthias.Zymla(a)uni-konstanz.de> To: pargram(a)mailman.uni-konstanz.de Subject: [ParGram] ParGram meeting at the LFG23 conference -- Reminder Message-ID: <25be1983-f4ff-8bab-ac8e-997ae68a27ae(a)uni-konstanz.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Dear all, This is a reminder that we host a ParGram session at the LFG23 conference for everyone who is interested in contributing to the ParGram effort. This includes the development of (new) grammars, new resources for grammar engineering with LFG, and more. The meeting again takes on a hybrid format, hopefully allowing as many of you to join as possible. The schedule is as follows: > Date: Friday, July 21st > > 9:00 - 9:15 Intro and Updates on XLE?? Miriam Butt > > 9:15 - 10:00? Mark-Matthias Zymla ? XLE and Glue Semantics, New > Developments > > 10:00 - 10:45 K. Sarveswaren ? Tamil Grammar > > 10:45 - 11:00 Coffee Break > > 11:00 - 11:45 Alexandra Fiotaki ? Greek Grammar > > 11:45 - 12:30 Elaine Ui Dhonnchadha ? Irish Grammar > > 12:30 - 13:15? Tafseer Ahmed -? UD to LFG conversion Zoom Link for on-line participation: Join Zoom Meeting https://uni-konstanz-de.zoom.us/j/92121385267?pwd=WnBways5TnJvVjg4T1pnTVpuM… Meeting ID: 921 2138 5267 Passcode: 050857 For more information, see the LFG23 homepage: https://sas.rochester.edu/cls/lfg23/ Hope to see many of you there and online! Best, Mark End of ParGram Digest, Vol 58, Issue 2 **************************************

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ParGram meeting at the LFG23 conference
by Mark-Matthias Zymla 17 Jul '23

17 Jul '23

Dear all, This year, again, we host a ParGram session at the LFG23 conference for everyone who is interested in contributing to the ParGram effort. This includes the development of (new) grammars, new resources for grammar engineering with LFG, and more. The meeting again takes on a hybrid format, hopefully allowing as many of you to join as possible. The schedule is as follows: Date: Friday, July 21st 9:00 - 9:15 Intro and Updates on XLE Miriam Butt 9:15 - 10:00 Mark-Matthias Zymla – XLE and Glue Semantics, New Developments 10:00 - 10:45 K. Sarveswaren – Tamil Grammar 10:45 - 11:00 Coffee Break 11:00 - 11:45 Alexandra Fiotaki – Greek Grammar 11:45 - 12:30 Elaine Ui Dhonnchadha – Irish Grammar 12:30 - 13:15 Tafseer Ahmed -– UD to LFG conversion Zoom Link for on-line participation: Join Zoom Meeting https://uni-konstanz-de.zoom.us/j/92121385267?pwd=WnBways5TnJvVjg4T1pnTVpuM… Meeting ID: 921 2138 5267 Passcode: 050857 For more information, see the LFG23 homepage: https://sas.rochester.edu/cls/lfg23/ Hope to see many of you there and online! Best, Mark

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Inquiry about Remote Access to the ParGram Meeting
by alexandra fiotaki 07 Jun '23

07 Jun '23

Dear all, I am writing to express my interest in hearing more about the UD-LFG conversion and to inquire about the accessibility of the ParGram meeting for individuals who are unable to attend in person. Specifically, I would like to know if there is any possibility to attend the ParGram meeting remotely or, if not feasible, accessing it as a recorded session. I am eagerly looking forward to your response! Best regards, Alexandra Fiotaki

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